The three Little Pigs and one Big, truly bad in a “good way” Wolf.

“Institutions will try to preserve the problem to which they are the solution.”-the Shirky-Masnik bureaucracy perpetuation principle.

A tale of two Doctors: Moss David Posner versus Lorraine Sheridan, and the author of the resoundingly debunked study on gang stalking.

The Good Doctor Posner

Dr. Moss David Posner was an M.D., and a former Viet Nam draft resistor– a man for whom involuntary conscription into the military forces was both unethical, and a necessary act of resistance, as he was charged with the care of his elderly parents. He made a reluctant decision to become a conscientious objector against the Viet Nam draft.

Like many men of his era,  and men of all era’s where men are seen as cheap dsiposable  labor and military cannon fodder, he was targeted and prosecuted with every niggling and quibbling detail under the laws that existed at the time- and those laws targeting men as potential victims of the sex-biased draft. The local draft board “expressly found that Posner was not a “genuine conscientious objector,” and like all laws that target male labor, male resistance, or male calls for ethical treatment-and that attempt to frame, or conscript men into violence one way or another, Posner lost his bid at resistance (the Domestic Violence Industry is the modern reaction formation from the MIC, and it’s dominists and zionists to men who resisted the draft).

Years later, after service to the state of California working with prisoners in some of the worlds most inhumane prisons, he was fired for treating prisoners humanely. He died in 2011, and was buried in Beth Israel cemetery, just as gang stalking had started to become a main stream topic.

For many decades after his act of civil disobedience, and throughout his prison advocacy efforts, where he quite nefariously advocated for the humane treatment of elderly prisoners-Dr. Posner endured organized gang stalking for decades, and he counseled others who also have been targets of this military-police-community policing-corporate stalking nightmare. He taught coping mechanisms and tactics on how to “fight back” using peaceful means of resistance, and and he is remembered as a man who fought “the good fight.”

Here are two of the several video’s that he and others put on Youtube to preserve his efforts, but there are many more, and you can find tidbits about him around the net:

 

In order to understand the exact nature of how the discrediting and disinformation smear campaigns work in regards to gang stalking, here is a screen capture of a Google search for Dr. Posner’s video’s, with Google autocomplete utilizing “suggestions,” which any hypnotist, propagandist, or other influence operator will recognize by its colloquial name, which is “mind control:

 

Also keep in mind that Google, which  keeps a “back door” open on all Google searches, routing everything you search directly to the NSA and the CIA, but also to the FBI and some 14 other intelligence agencies-and which have notoriously co-opted the communication channels via back door searches in real time of all Google data. And, Google is basically a CIA creation to begin with. Wait a minute: did the CIA create Google, or did Google create the CIA?  In a word of smoke and mirrors, sometimes the cut outs look identical.

There literally is no difference between them now, except for the black bag jobs, and the assassinations and high level targeting of…consumers, of course. OH-and the physical as opposed to mental torture. Oh and the budgets- Google makes WAAAAAAY more money. Oh wait…..

Related Story: How the CIA built Google

“They” see gangs of deep state parrots, crisis PR professionals, and psychologists who are complicit with the Military Industrial Complex and the Carceral State.

Those Other doctors

In the summer of 2016, as the American election was in full swing, and the partisan MSM as revealed as a mere tool of deep state propaganda dissemination rather than anything even remotely close to being the heralded “fourth estate” that championed the will of the people, a string of mass shootings took place across America, and across the world. Lie most staged terror events that are eventually traced to deep state interests, Israel, or one of many international banking cartels, the summer of 2016 was unique in that the collusion between deep state narrative and actual homicides was linked irrevocably.

The issue of “targeted individuals” who are victims of organized gang stalking was linked as well. because some of these mass shooters had contacted online resource and support groups to attempt to get the help that modern psychiatry will not, and cannot provide to TI’s, chiefly because psychiatry is in bed with the Domestic Violence Industrial Complex (DVIC), the Military Industrial Complex (MIC), and the Prison Industrial Complex (PIC), all of which are also involved heavily with the drug companies and the mega-pharmaceutical interests.

What a difference a few decades make. In the era of Dr Posner resisting the draft and today, deep state involved mass shootings have swelled, as has the PIC and endless war. And one important detail that cannot be missed is how deeply in bed all of the above named interests are with both psychiatry and Big Pharma, but also with main stream media(MSM), which is little more than a propaganda dispensary.

It is here where the internet became for some an outlet of alternative news, and hard hitting social critique that filled a gap where the left-which once spoke for prison refrm and humane treatment-slid to the right, and now spoke for endless war and incarceration rates that are at record levels.

Through fear inducement and morality panics, the old left had become the neo-con new right, and they began to craft very misanthropic rationalizations and trans-humanist messages in Kantian “greater good” packages.  And all of this with “official sources” backing deep state social engineering schemes, one of which was gun control through the memetic that “targeted individuals” are dangerous.

It was at this un-American juncture where the New York Times met the Canadian “journalist” Mike McPhate, and his cohabitants in deep state propaganda factories, Australian psychologist and speech pathologist Dr. Loraine Sheridan, both of whom willingly and not-naively played along with disinformation and discrediting of TI’s and other vulnerable individuals-but also broad brushed all of those who experience abuse buy hidden surveillance state players into the category of mentally ill.

Like much of the NYT’s recent propaganda work, Sheridan was the perfect fit for their “official source,” and no doubt she has been handsomely rewarded since she forever juxtaposed junk science with mental health in a way that foreshadowed the death of the reputability of both journalism and psychiatry .

The infamous article was ominously billed as

United States of Paranoia: They See Gangs of Stalkers

Here, below, is the clown prince of information mediation about gang stalking via the discrediting narrative His name is Mike McPhate, and this picture is from his Twitter account (which was curiously silent just after the backlash from this dubious piece). I suggest you contact him-frequently-and ask him about gang stalking. And-contact him from an anonymous email on “the internet,” because the study that he supports believes in anonymous input.

 

mike mcphate
Mike McPhate of the NYT wrote the piece that quoted Sheridan: Deep State Stooge, or just another Mockingbird in the flock? Either way, @mcphate is the poster child for the question: is the MSM just another MIC tool of social control and fake news?

And here below, once again  is the “official source” and “only person to ever do a study on gang stalking that was quoted all over the internet as an authority on organized gang stalking- his handmaiden in propaganda dispensing, Dr. Lorraine Sheridan (not including Posner, Dietrich, or dozens of others who have done studes on this EXACT toic, and several related topics-which McPhate did not. Such is the nature of journalism today-who needs a fact checker-or facts for that matter, when the deep state is running propaganda into your mouth and out your ass?)

Without irony, these two concocted a narrative of “what is organized gang stalking” by consulting an arguably mentally ill person, Timothy Trespas*, and then, adding to their “sources” the results of Sheridan’s study where she literally, and without irony, interviewed “the internet” for her data, without speaking to any real person, in person. Let that sink in a bit, and get back to me. I thou, Ich Du and all that, right Dr. Wood?

But one of the main themes from all these “official sources” seems to be that shutting down un-mediated, un-infiltrated, and un-fileted discussion by victims of OGS is a necessary step to understanding the dialogue-and that by isolating individuals who have been gang staked, problem solved!

Even and especially, one of the few others who have attempted to muddy the dialectic of OGS, Elizabeth E. Dietrich, also recommends “isolation” of “these” individuals, because conversation-words- are somehow dangerous. Not without irony or coincidence, she is widely quoted by those in the gay community, and those who believe that every Twitter post have a “trigger warning.” Speech, it seems, is a threat to some people-especially those who have harmed others with junk science.

But these people are not simply attempting to stifle free expression, they are also trying to control a narrative, which has historically been the work of the CIA itself, and even the New York Times as a propaganda outlet for the CIA to take a leak.

As one example of how tightly controlled and diabolical all of this narrative control is, one must look at Sheridan’s partner in crime that co-authored the study, David V. James, who studies stalking, and authors pieces that indicate words are a threat to him as well, and all of their work, one notices almost immediately, is tailored to the current terrorism and “threat assessment” funding sources, and then, threat assessments of critical opinions of their ‘work.’ And all of that without a blink of irony, as these two perpetrated a major hoax where words became threats, and actual victims discredited.

To whit, here is some titles of his work:

The Fixated Threat Assessment Centre: preventing harm and facilitating care

http://www.tandfonline.com/author/James%2C+David+V

 

And this one below, a classic form of pre-emptive CYA when one of his botched ‘patients’ gets wise to operand conditioning, or other forms of the classic Martha Mitchell type official pinion gas-lighting that is prevalent in creationist communities, or police states and third world dictatorships, as well as neo-con artists that finance navel gazing junk science:

Which brings me back to Dr. Lorraine Sheridan, and the difference between Dr. Moss David Posner, activist, prisoners rights advocate, and Viet Nam War era draft resistor: the main targets of MIC stalking are always peace activists, dissidents, and others who challenge the lockup on “narrative.” Or who use “bad words,” that challenge these other coward directly.
While victims of OGS range from whistle blowers like decorated intelligence officer William Binney, to common victims of real estate developers and the llocal police such as Timothy Trespas, what any and all ‘studies’ of gang stalking indicate is that the pro’s want to keep a lid on it in the least, and to stop discussion about it entirely without their “divine intervention”. Cuz, bad words hurt waaaay more than bombs on babies heads in Syria, or Gaza; and certainly woods hertz way more to the sensitives in the trigger warning crowd.
Here is Dr. Sheridan’s work, co-authored by James:
Then, adding to the “BDS is Hitler!!” echo chamber that these academics are trapped in, there is Elizabeth E. Dietrich, who comes to similar conclusions-that OGS claimants are dangerous, and should be isolated. Without doubt, all these ‘official sources’ agree-isolation, and then, defamation via diagnoses is the key to containing the narrative, and that these ‘crazies’ must be silenced.
Where have we heard THAT before? Why, nowhere other than the famous case of Martha Mitchell, who helped break the Nixon Watergate scandal, when her psychologist called her delusional. This is called “the Martha Mitchell effect” which is a close cousin of “the Streisand Effect.”
Here is Dietrich’s easily discredited work-maybe you can help her, and  make her ‘internet famous’ and maybe, explain her flawed, kind of dangerous reasoning about isolating individuals (which has NEVER been shown to be a positive therapy):
Is it just me, or are all these Nazi sounding names on these psychologists a coincidence? Maybe I am losing my mind, with a bit of help, because no psychologist I have ever known would or ethically could agree that silencing victims-or isolating actually mentally ill people- is EVER a good idea.
These names: David V. James, and Lorraine Sheridan, and Elizabeth Dietrich, should forever exist next to names like the Nazi Joseph Mengele, and the CIA’s LSD doctor, Sidney Gottlieb, and the CIA torture psychologists James Mitchell and Bruce Jesssen who made 81 million pushing junk science, phony psychology, and human rights abuses.
These diabolical MIC people and those who tailor their opinions for maximum police state dollars are really are practicing what has historically been called “punitive psychology” in many cases.  Not that some claimants aren’t possibly “ill,” but also, many certainly are not, such as the cases where whistle blowers and reporters  like Jessica Miles, and many others describe the same exact things as victims of OGS; or where low level politicians like Bob Deis in Stockton CA are stalked and harassed by the police union.
And, the practices that are described by victims are certainly the kind of thing that can cause stress, and PTSD, as well as what appear to be delusions because the “good guys” are in fact one and the same as those who harass them. And when you add official source gas-lighting from the ‘healing professions’, certainly that can’t help.
So if anything in the data is clear, it is that psychologists are obsessed with narrative control, and discrediting those who claim they have been gang stalked.
SO, any legitimate researcher, civil or criminal defense lawyer or other advocate that seeks to understand a targeted individuals complaint for a lawsuit about organized gang stalking, one must factor in the ‘suppression mechanism” that some psychologists are using.
But Timothy Trespas, who was featured prominently on the cover of the story, and who looks like a guy who has spent one two many nights on skid row, coincidentally lives in one of New York’s gentrifying communities, where there is a high correlation between the likelihood of low income people being harassed and targeted with gang stalking, and property developers who hire teams of armed thugs to push the homeless out of these areas-as their is a connection between OGS and real estate.

While the most famous case of real estate related gang stalking could well be the case of Bob Deis in Stockton Ca, happened in Stockton CA, where  the police and fire unions bought the house next to him and waged a war of attrition after Deis suggested cuts to pension funds, there are many others.

I could go on, but for any genuine researcher of organized gang stalking, the tale of two doctors should be instructive. One man with ethics, a conscience, and a cause; a bunch of others like the many heads of a Hydra, or Medusa herself, squawking  lies and disinformation like panhandlers and hucksters with their paws so deep in the deep state that it is nearly impossible to refute them properly.

But if we put on our thinking caps, and disconnect the wires from these ‘offical sources’ I am sure there’s hope for TI’s-once we locate the source of their gas-lighting (which comes from official sources) and their “electronic harassment” (which is what we know today as the total surveillance state and its constant wiretapping of ALL citizens, hooked in with community policing that has so far existed in hidden form.) Then, we can clealy see that the only “implants” involved are these people, planted like a CIA leak in mainstream media.

Separating gang stalking claims from electronic weapons harassment reporting: a necessary step to understanding the dialectic, and reports of mind control.

The single most prominent feature of the research that exists in regards to organized gang stalking is that those who claim to be researching it seldom if ever actually speak to those who claim they are targeted.  Let that sink in a bit….

Then, have a look at a study that concludes that targeted individuals are dangerous co-opters and interlopers on the supremacy of the psychological narrative of the DSM-V:

Diagnosis of Delusions on the Internet:

Bell V, Maiden C, Munoz-Solomando A, Reddy V. (2006) ‘Mind control’ experiences on the internet: implications for the psychiatric diagnosis of delusions.

While this disconnect between psychologists and those they seek to diagnose anonymously is a feature in every study on the subject thus far, it is also clear that there is evidence of a vast, well funded network of intelligence agents and agencies that on one hand, literally target individuals (most notoriously the UK’s “dirty tricks” division, JTRIG), with influence operations, and then, seeks to discredit targeted individuals, it is crucial to psychologists and criminal defense lawyers, as well as social workers and others in the healing professions to understand that no all victims claim that they are harassed with electronic weapons, and that not all those who report electronic harassment, noise campaigns, or other modern media deployments aimed at destroying them or their privacy are delusional.

But in the extant research on this topic, we see that few-if any- of those who have weighed in to this dialectic are willing, or able to separate the many cases of law enforcement, or DHS, or FBI harassment from the intelligence cults, or religious harassment that some targeted individuals endure.

In that light, I suggest that it is mportant when encountering these individual victims that any psychologist, or criminal defense lawyer who represents targeted individuals examine the basis of the claims, and look carefully for signs of actual harassment early in the encounter. Also, be aware that the discrediting narrative is very well financed (the DHS and intelligence agency budget was 71 billion in 2016), and that many NSA whistle blowers, actual victims of abuse by police and fire departments, and others report similar symptoms, and similar experiences as targeted individuals.

Here below is one of the few studies online that attempts to understand the ‘phenomenon’ from a perspective of the DSM-V criterion, where we bump into a similar situation as was apparent at the height of the Nixon years, where the horrific illegality and  lawlessness of the CIA’s mind control cover-ups, worked hand in hand with FBI COINTELPRO and a know-nothing MSM to obfuscate actual insight into the scope of these problems-annd the easiest solution was to blame the victims, or in the case of Bell, Ready, and Munoz Solomando, paint them as deviant co-opters of technology:

It is particularly noteworthy that a potentially disabled and disenfranchised group have co-opted available technology

-Bell V, Maiden C, Munoz-Solomando A, Reddy V. (2006)

This is literally the Martha Mitchell effect in action, and in practice as psychologists seek now, as they did then, to discredit actual victims, and squash them into a pill box. While there is little to no doubt that psychopaths, psychotics and delusionals and others are involved in the community (notoriously, the leaders of the so-called TI support group FFCHS has been implicated in 3 mass shooter events), there is also a much larger portion of this community that is “under the influence” of something, and that something has a name: influence operations working with Crisis PR agents and psychology to lend authority to an otherwise debunked narrative.

‘Mind control’ experiences on the internet: Implications for the psychiatric diagnosis of delusions
Abstract
Diagnosis of Delusions on the Internet:

Bell V, Maiden C, Munoz-Solomando A, Reddy V. (2006) ‘Mind control’ experiences on the
internet: implications for the psychiatric diagnosis of delusions.
Psychopathology
, 39(2), 87-91.
Background:
The DSM criteria for a delusion indicate that it should not include any beliefs held by
a person’s ‘culture or subculture’. The internet has many examples of people reporting ‘mind control experiences’ (MCEs) on self-published web pages, many of which suggest a community based around such beliefs and experiences. It was hypothesised that some of these reports are likely to reflect delusional beliefs and the hyperlinks between web reports were likely to show evidence of social structure, demonstrating the ‘culture or subculture’ exemption to be increasingly redundant in light of new technology.
Sampling and Methods:
Texts from web sites reporting MCEs (n = 10), experience of cancer (n =
10), depression (n = 10) and being stalked (n = 10) were identified, and were blind-rated by three independent psychiatrists for the presence of delusions. Hyperlinks from web sites reporting MCEs were used to create a network structure; this was compared with a size-matched, randomly generated network and known social networks from the literature using social network analysis.
Conclusions:
The sampled web-published accounts of MCEs are highly likely to be influenced by
delusional beliefs. Social network analysis suggests there is significant evidence of an online community based around these beliefs. The fact that individuals can form a community based on the content of a potentially delusional belief present a paradox for the DSM diagnostic criteria for a delusion, and suggests the need to revise and revisit the original operational definition in the light of these new technological developments.
It is particularly noteworthy that a potentially disabled and disenfranchised group have co-opted available technology to create a complex, dynamic and information-rich community that serves to support and inform similarly-affected people within the confines of a world view driven by potentially psychotic symptoms. This is a striking example of a support network completely removed from the traditional medico-legal support networks of the state and even the grassroots support networks run by mental health services user groups. In particular it demonstrates that the internet may enable complex support mechanisms without reference to a view of reality held by the authorities or even the mainstream of opinion. Whether this sort of support network works well for all, if any individuals, remains to be seen.
In conclusion, the presence of a complex and evolving online community based around the content of potentially psychotic experience challenges mainstream psychiatric understanding and diagnostic criteria for how a delusion is defined. This paper also presents the first application of internet-based social network analysis to clinical research, which the authors hope will be a useful tool in furthering medical research.
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Gang stalking and whistle blower and mental illness: NYPD’s Adrian Schoolcraft

Good Reads: NYPD whistle blower Adrian Schoolcraft sent to psych ward  Most, if not all organized gang stalking activity, or claims of such activity, involve police or other agency involvement. And, one of the claims that is frequently used to discredit those who allege they are being harassed or otherwise manipulated, and sometimes even “mind controlled,” is that these people are mentally ill.I once thought this was true as well, until it happened to me.

More and more, we see that those who attempt to create a false narrative about gang stalking are in fact encouraging the Martha Mitchell effect among researchers of organized stalking, criminal defense attorney’s, social workers,  and psychologists.

Lastly- and without irony- it was confirmed at the same time that the NYPD had in fact used electronic sound weapons on peaceful protesters.

So far hundreds of people have been arrested for protesting peacefully and over the weekend the NYPD deployed the “LRAD”, which is a sound cannon that projects a painful tone into peoples ears while commanding them to disperse.

Meet Adrian Schoolcraft, NYPD whistle blower who refused to issue phony tickets and make false arrests:

EXCLUSIVE: NYPD quota whistleblower settles case against hospital over holding him in psych ward

Adrian Schoolcraft had claimed that his fellow 81st Precinct officers conspired to have him held against his will in a Jamaica Hospital psych for six days after he complained of a quota system.

Adrian Schoolcraft had claimed that his fellow 81st Precinct officers conspired to have him held against his will in a Jamaica Hospital psych for six days after he complained of a quota system.

(Freelance/for New York Daily News)

NYPD whistleblower Adrian Schoolcraft has settled his case against the Jamaica Hospital doctors who put him in a psych ward, bringing an end to his explosive case.

Schoolcraft, who settled his claims against the city for $600,000 in September, had charged his fellow officers conspired to have him held against his will at the hospital for six days after he complained of a quota system at the 81st Precinct in Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn.

Schoolcraft, 40, alleged that two doctors bought the NYPD’s story that Schoolcraft was crazy without considering that the disgruntled cop was actually telling the truth in October 2009.

A Jamaica Hospital spokesman had no comment.

FRANK SERPICO DRAGGED INTO FELLOW WHISTLEBLOWER ADRIAN SCHOOLCRAFT’S NYPD SUIT

Gang stalking and punitive psychology: technology abuse meets bad government policy

Organized stalking is  symptom of a mental disease alright- the creeping institutional psychopathology of America’s encroaching police and military state. And it’s also a social disease, where victims who have not been targeted mock, or deride the claims of those who have been targeted. What do you call a world where the torturers mock their victims, or a world where psychologists work with the FBI as informants against the interests of patients who have endured hidden abuses?

Between the massive fraud waste and abuse at today’s NSA, which targets individuals with chronic and pervasive surveillance, and targets whistle blowers, and then feeds the interactions between these people to the many other alphabet agencies that use NSA data to then follow, wiretap, and target American citizens, democracy is on a precipice like never before in history.And it doesn’t help that psychology is politicized and allied with torture and abuse, as government seeks to eradicate privacy by outright lying and bullying the nation with one false paradox after another; and the silencing of those who believe that privacy is an important personal right; and perhaps the seat of healing itself?

Never in history has there been a bigger invasion of institutions of healing. Well-there WAS MKULTRA, which set the template of course. And once upon a time some psychiatrists, medical doctors and psychologists still had a conscience, and took a stand against punitive psychology. Meet Dr. Moss David Posner, draft resistor, prison doctor and prisoners advocate, who counseled targeted individuals and who was one himself.

So, maybe ONE other period of history- the Stalin era of the Soviet USSR, a time when psychologists diagnosed the complaints of those who were victims of gulags, and victims of chronic and pervasive surveillance and its subsidiary harassment as “mental illness.”

The term for the political use of psychiatry is well known: the Stalin era of punitive psychology.

One other era of history saw psychiatrists and psychologists abuse the practice and principles, as they colluded with military and CIA funded psychiatrists. And what they are doing today torturing people and mind controlling them a Guantanamo is also well documented as exactly that. So, political abuse of psychiatry is a real thing, as we see at Guantanamo, and in the Martha Mitchell effect.

But also-quite unsurprisingly- psychologists even recently ganged up and wrote a letter calling President Donald Trump a nutter. I mean-the irony meter is probably broken at this point over the “what is organized stalking” but this was just too much. And guess where that letter which featured psychiatrists who HAVE NEVER MET Trump, calling him all kinds of high falutin’ names straight out of the DSM-IV?

Yup-at the New Yarwk Times, the same paper that carried the accolades heralding the enshrinement of the David V. James and Lorraine Sheridan study as an “authoritative” document. I mean- go ahead and make my case for me if you want to, I will be glad to examine your claims, but most outside the echo chamber of psychiatry and psychology-and that which sucks the teats of the DVIC, are insular, incestuous, and single focused, as psychology is proven to be little more politicized sociology with a drug prescription to sell.

While applied-psychology once showed promise as a helping tool, today psychology as junk science or pseudo-science is very well documented, and it stymies any rational person that any president or political figure could condone torture, but they do, right here in America. And, psychologists have colluded with that, too, regardless of whether the president was a controlled asset or not. SO, this emergent internet trend of diagnosing mental illness via anonymous survey’s and other equally challenged methods is just plainly bizarre-schizophrenic projection at best, punitive political theater at worst.

Not surprisingly, the two “great white fathers(patriarchs)” of both propaganda operations and psychiatry were actually relatives: Sigmund Freud the mind bender and his nephew Edward Bernay’s the great spin doctor. And this is by design, and by practice, and echoes the very history of both psychology and propaganda to this day, as complimentary organs of mass mind control and opinion formation as well-which is a clear and stated goal of all propaganda, by definition, and by the stated goals of this slick operation.

Related Story: The birth of the MIC Propaganda complex, mass mind control and influence operations, and it’s historic alliance with psychology. “A week after [President]Wilson’s declaration of war, he[Bernay’s] creates the imaginatively named Committee on Public Information (CPI) to propagandize the war and, quite literally, to mass brainwash America. It marks the beginning of scientifically based mass mind control in America.”

Here below, I offer any researcher of OGS to look in on a dialogue between two people who claim they are targeted individuals, and note the sanity with which they speak. This is a very common fact of OGS victims-most are clear headed and plain spoken, and the only thing they seem to “suffer” is having n redress, and few legal recourses to action against their system sanctioned stalkers. And, that the only element of mental dis-ease displayed in the scenario below is that one suspects the other of being a government agent, and exhibits that exact rational, self protective paranoia.

Here is actual dialogue between targeted individuals on The Intercept forum. Note the dialogue between Galactus and Stan (Stan is a well known person there who believes he is targeted, and he frequently mentions surveillance role players, and has an online presence where he seems to exhibit rational reactions to harm he has experienced in the past. 

No tinfoil hats, now DEW’s, no microwave beams-just a discrediting narrative, some possible PTSD,  and one persons attempt to overcome it through seeking validation-which is not, and will not be forthcoming from politicized psychology any time soon. There’s just TOO MUCH money status and power in the game played by institutional sociopaths of all kinds, on a board that is overlayed on any individual’s personal experience.

JB
March 4 2017, 3:16 p.m.

Who ultimately pays the storage fees for all this data, just sitting in a haystack, waiting to be sorted or not? … Seems mighty expensive, my boondoggle.
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hans gruber
March 4 2017, 3:14 p.m.

IC operates on need to know

and IC has determined that you dont need to know .. so quit whining
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Stan ? hans gruber
March 4 2017, 5:01 p.m.

Based on the number and scale of past fuck-ups, it seems the intelligence community doesn’t need to know much either.
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Galactus-36215
March 4 2017, 3:07 p.m.

Spying on Americans is anything but incidental.

My spouse and I are on 24×7 direct surveillance now via our smartphones for the last several years. We are both US citizens.

Although we’ve not been able to confirm it, we suspect we have been on a Watchlist since 2004. Our overseas mail has been redirected through an office/adress in Singapore, our phones tapped in 2005/6, incessantly questioned and interviewed at the US border every time we enter the US from any overseas trip either personal or for business.
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Stan ? Galactus-36215
March 4 2017, 5:31 p.m.

This guy has made these claims before while vehemently denying the experiences of others who have been subjected less trivial abuses, such as black-listing, constant organized stalking, and physical assaults.

He’s got that smell. The stasi runs sock puppets here, 24×7, trying to manage impressions. If they’re not tossing that space aliens & mind control slop at real targets, they’re pushing “it’s not so bad” bullshit.

Professional vermin? Volunteer patriot? Another naive zoo animal without a clue? Either way, he’s full of it.
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Christian C Holmer ? Stan
March 4 2017, 5:50 p.m.

I’ve never once questioned the veracity of the experiences you’ve described over the years. Different people can be targeted in different ways Stan no harm no foul. Weaponizing peer reviewed neuroscience has been at the top of the deep state “to do” list for quite some time.
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Galactus-36215 ? Stan
March 4 2017, 7:05 p.m.

These events are mutually exclusive. It’s perfectly acceptable for someone to believe one story while rejecting another.

The only ‘smell’ I have is usually when I don’t shower on Saturday mornings.

But have at it. Feel free to name call all you want, it doesn’t bother me. It actually makes me happy and to smile. So, go for it. 🙂
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Nick Torrent ? Galactus-36215
March 4 2017, 6:27 p.m.

You’ve confirmed this for sure?
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Galactus-36215 ? Nick Torrent
March 4 2017, 6:55 p.m.

Two very key aspects of this, yes. That’s all I’m will to say at this point.
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